Dr. Stephen Malthouse: "We're completely going down the wrong road"
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Dr. Stephen Malthouse: "We're completely going down the wrong road"
Source: https://newtube.app/user/Darek/jAgbKrBDated: Nov 29, 2020
Keywords: Covid, Covid-19, Vaccine, Malthouse, Stephen Malthouse, Citizen's Forum, Jack Etkin, drsreport
Citizen's Forum Interview of Dr. Stephen Malthouse by Jack Etkin
Interviewer: "Welcome back to Citizen's Forum. It is Sunday, November the 29th, 2020. Our guest in this segment is Dr. Stephen Malthouse. Stephen is a doctor on, I believe, it's Denman island. And, you've written an open letter to Dr. Bonnie Henry about the current virus situation. So, as of today, November the 29th, our government and our media are telling us that things are getting worse, there are cases everywhere, and there's a lot to fear. And therefore, we have to lockdown, and wear masks, and isolate, and live in a lot of fear. In order to protect ourselves and others, that's what we have to do. And that's the story we are being told by the media and the governments. But you say in your letter -- and I happen to agree with you, although I won't say we're right, but I agree with what you are saying -- you say that the science does not support any of these things. So, can you comment, for example, on the PCR tests, and the lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and etcetera, Dr. Malthouse?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Sure Jack, thank you very much for inviting me on your show. Well, a lot of the -- in fact, the whole basis of this pandemic is based on diagnosing Covid-19 disease that comes from the Sars-Cov2 virus. And that's based on a PCR test which is what they do when they take a little swab out of your nose, and they look at the debris that's on that which is looking for RNA particles. Those are then magnified repeately to try to get enough so that you can match that to the Cov-19 virus and then say the person is positive. So that test only shows positive or negative.
---BOMBSHELL STATEMENT---
Dr. Malthouse: "That test, however, is not designed to make diagnosis of viral infections, so it is misappropriated under the emergency use authorization in the States.
---BOMBSHELL STATEMENT---
Dr. Malthouse: "And, in fact, what they are doing with that test now is magnifying it in excess of what was recommended by experts and even by the companies that were making it. That's now being magnified from 33 to 40 times in Canada across all the provinces and the recommendation is up to 30.
---BOMBSHELL STATEMENT---
Dr. Malthouse: "Even Dr. Fauci has said, if you do a magnification of the debris in your nose to find RNA which you can match to the Sars-Cov2, above 35 is a complete waste of time and it does not show that you have any infective particles.
Dr. Malthouse: "Now, that's quite interesting, because what -- you know -- one reason people are wearing masks is that I am going to protect you and you are going to protect me. But, in fact, they have shown in a huge study out of China with 10 MILLION PEOPLE that, wearing -- being an asymptomatic person with a positive PCR test was not actually contagious. It was a huge study, just recently published, and it shows that asymptomatic people are not transmitting disease. So, here we have a pandemic diagnosed or based on a PCR test which was completely inappropriate for the job -- and misused -- and then we also find that another one the, sort of, pillars of wearing masks is, you know, asymptomatic spread, and we are finding now with this huge study out of China, just recently published, that this is not actually happening."
Interviewer: "Does the PCR test actually test for this specific virus?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Well, they would like it to test for this specific virus, but they don't really have anything to compare it to. Even in the CDC papers, if you dig down, you'll see they didn't have Cov, Sars-Cov2, virus available at the time, so they used a substitute to compare what they plot of your nose to. So, even if you look at that level, you'll find that they're really not using the test appropriately."
Interviewer: "So, Dr. Malthouse, you're not alone in what you say. There are groups of organizations, of scientists and doctors around the world who are questioning the official story. They say that, perhaps, nothing out of the ordinary is happening this year, and that there is no pandemic, that is -- and there is no need for the tremendous amount of fear or the masks or the lockdowns. Can you comment on the Barrington Declaration and the various doctors and scientists in Canada and around the world who, like you, are questioning the official story?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Well, the Great Barrington Declaration was -- states that in -- the evidence does not support the measures that are being carrying out by public health. Masking, social distancing, lockdowns, those are not based on science. And it's pretty clear now. We -- in the very beginning we had some -- we were wondering what to do, we had this deathly virus coming our way, and so some of those public health measures were put into place because we -- because of the unknown. But now we've had data from since at least since April that shows that we actually did not have a true pandemic. Now when I say that it means that the number of deaths in every country in the world in the period of time, let's say March -- February, March, April, May -- did not exceed what people had been experiencing in the previous years. And so, we really haven't had an excess death toll, which, in the past, before 2009, when the WHO changed the definition of a pandemic to accommodate the bird flu, H1N1, we actually -- this would not have been considered an epidemic.
---BOMBSHELL STATEMENT---
Dr. Malthouse: "And what we're seeing now really is a "case-demic. Now what that means is that we are constantly being told there are more and more cases. There's 400 today, a thousand tomorrow. But these are cases based on this PCR test which is inaccurate and giving us at least 90% false positives -- much higher, perhaps, maybe even 97% false positives. So if we're basing all our actions on that inaccurate PCR test, then we're going to go far astray -- and we have."
Dr. Malthouse: "That evidence has been shown that -- the evidence has shown that in the previous policies coming up to May for the first so-called wave, the deaths from the policies were about 10 to 1 compared to the deaths for Covid itself. And now the people have evaluated that to be at least 50 to 1. So that would include starvation, suicides, overdoses, people not getting proper treatment for their diseases, delay of diagnosis, many different things which have caused that. And that's not including all the psychological damage which we'll be seeing over the next years. It's going to roll out depression, anxiety, so many different things. And, the way we're propagating this is simply by fear. The fear is causing people to follow public health measures which do not make sense, they are not scientific, and there's no evidence to support them. People are following those because they're afraid and they're reaching out to someone to save them, and this is the plan is to create fear among the public so that they will do whatever you tell them. People have to start thinking for themselves."
Interviewer: "In your letter to Dr. Henry, Dr. Malthouse, you, you explain -- although I'm sure she knows, but the rest of us don't -- you explain what a case is. And, maybe you can just comment on that, because it's not exactly what we're being told these days."
Dr. Malthouse: "We are seeing cases going up because there's doing -- there's more testing being done. In fact, we've had more cases now than we had at the peak of the first wave, so to speak. And that's because the more PCR tests you do, if nine out of ten of them are inaccurate, false positives, then you are going to have way more positive people. Now when they call a case in regular medical lingo, it means someone who is actually sick, who has symptoms, and often needs to be admitted to the hospital. That would be a case. But now-a-days a case is anyone with a positive PCR test. Now if we based all our practice, our policies, on PCR testing, which we know is false -- a recent court decision out of Portugal actually decided that PCR was not accurate and was inappropriately being applied here -- and that was a very important decision. If we base everyone on that, and cases, which may be asymptomatic people who are not even sick and they're not contagious, based on the Chinese study, then we're completely going down the wrong road. And if we look at all the harms -- the collateral harm that's being caused by these policies -- we better make that 180 degree turn and go back the other way if we want to save our country."
Interviewer: "Do you have any idea why the media is not reporting on the types of things that you are talking about?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Well, the media gets 50 to 70% of their income from the pharmaceutical companies. The pharmaceutical companies are going to profit big time from this, in the billions and millions of dollars repeatedly every year from the vaccination and other drugs they might sell alongside that. So there's no motivation for them and I would say they are completely captured. You are not going to get your information from the mainstream media. And, in fact, I recommend putting your television in the garage for the next 6 months."
Interviewer: "You say to Dr. Henry in your letter to her, you say, "It's your duty as the provincial health officer to provide facts." What do you think our public health people in B.C. and right across Canada should be doing now?"
Dr. Malthouse: "I think our public health people, including Dr. Bonnie Henry, should be saying that, "we made a mistake" that, "we, looking at the data now, from the earlier part of the year, we've seen that public policy [unintelligible] rolled out. We're not helping people and we're actually harming them for now and for the future, way beyond any type of epidemic or pandemic, and that we need to apologize, and to do something which is science and evidence based. That's what I think the public health should be doing."
Interviewer: "Are you alone in this or would you say there's at least some support within the medical and scientific community in Canada and around the world for what you are saying here?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Well, what we're seeing here is that all the doctors and scientists, epidemioligists, researchers, everybody who is actually looking at the data is saying the same thing: that this lockdown, facemask wearing, washing your hands excessively, isolating people unnecessarily, locking down businesses or causing them to close, closing churches, that all that is baloney -- by that I mean it's not based on science. And all of them are being blocked by mainstream media. People are going to have to look elsewhere to get their information and to learn how to evaluate for themselves. But I am not a lone voice in the wilderness here. There are thousands and thousands of doctors and scientists speaking out against what's going on around the world. And if you look at it, you'd say, "Well, why would all our public health people, our governments being, you know, giving us the wrong information?" Well, that leads you onto the next question as to what would be the motivation for someone to try to implement policies which are actually killing people?"
Interviewer: "What would be the motivation? What is, what is then behind all of this? Now, I happen to agree with you. I don't think the pandemic is real. I think we're being given false information. I think the death numbers have been exagerated immensely and, it's, if you watch the media or listen to the politicians, it's all fear all the time. Now I don't say I'm right in that thought, but it is what I think. But if you do think that then, we have to look at, what is the reason for doing all of this? Because it's not an accident. If the death numbers are being artificially inflated, and we're being scared by cases, which, as you said just a few minutes ago, medically are not cases, then what's behind it?"
Dr. Malthouse: "That's a good question. I'm not sure if you want to go there. (Chuckles) But that's the big leap for people. Right? That's the big step forward. To think that it's such a big lie. That, that it's hard for people to comprehend or to accept. And that's, and people do not want to accept it. That's why they're more willing to place their trust in someone that they can see their policies are absurd. It's an illusion of safety that they're offering you. And that's what people are clinging to because they're so frightened."
Interviewer: "You mentioned earlier, how many, the PCR test uses doublings. They keep doubling and doubling and doubling the small bit of virus they get. And if you over a certain number of doublings, the test becomes completely irrelevant. I asked Adrian Dix's office, the Minister of Health in BC, for, what's the number of doublings that are being used? And, I mean, that's a very straightforward number. There's no reason not to get it. And yet they won't tell us what it is. And we're almost out of time."
Dr. Malthouse: "Here's what they've done. There was a study came out which looked at all the provinces. They were not able to get the information directly from the provinces. Most of them were withholding that information. But the numbers are 33 to 45 across the country. That includes I think all the provinces they were able to get, which was the majority of them. So 33, you might think is acceptable, but usually they're saying that 25 to 30 is the maximum you want to do this amplification, this clinicinal amplification or cycle threshold -- CT -- cycle threshold, That would be the maximum would be 30. And they're doing 33 to 45 in Canadian provinces. They won't tell you, because the whole thing falls apart when you see that they're creating an amplification such that just about everything will be positive. Now you wonder why would they do that? Well, they're doing that because they're being told to do that. And they're being told to do that because we want to create a case-demic -- a case-demic, which is not, you know, people in the hospitals. Of course, we're seeing now an increase in hospitalizations, which we would expect from this time of the year. This is perfectly normal. And as the fall goes into the winter, we'll see that the numbers continue to be what we would expect."
Interviewer: "Our hospitals are always full at this time of the year. Dr. Malthouse, we're out of time. Thank-you very very much for doing this interview. And, who knows where we're going. But, thank-you very much. And thanks to everybody for watching this segment of Citizen's Forum."
Source: https://newtube.app/user/Darek/jAgbKrBDated: Nov 29, 2020
Keywords: Covid, Covid-19, Vaccine, Malthouse, Stephen Malthouse, Citizen's Forum, Jack Etkin, drsreport
Citizen's Forum Interview of Dr. Stephen Malthouse by Jack Etkin
Interviewer: "Welcome back to Citizen's Forum. It is Sunday, November the 29th, 2020. Our guest in this segment is Dr. Stephen Malthouse. Stephen is a doctor on, I believe, it's Denman island. And, you've written an open letter to Dr. Bonnie Henry about the current virus situation. So, as of today, November the 29th, our government and our media are telling us that things are getting worse, there are cases everywhere, and there's a lot to fear. And therefore, we have to lockdown, and wear masks, and isolate, and live in a lot of fear. In order to protect ourselves and others, that's what we have to do. And that's the story we are being told by the media and the governments. But you say in your letter -- and I happen to agree with you, although I won't say we're right, but I agree with what you are saying -- you say that the science does not support any of these things. So, can you comment, for example, on the PCR tests, and the lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and etcetera, Dr. Malthouse?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Sure Jack, thank you very much for inviting me on your show. Well, a lot of the -- in fact, the whole basis of this pandemic is based on diagnosing Covid-19 disease that comes from the Sars-Cov2 virus. And that's based on a PCR test which is what they do when they take a little swab out of your nose, and they look at the debris that's on that which is looking for RNA particles. Those are then magnified repeately to try to get enough so that you can match that to the Cov-19 virus and then say the person is positive. So that test only shows positive or negative.
---BOMBSHELL STATEMENT---
Dr. Malthouse: "That test, however, is not designed to make diagnosis of viral infections, so it is misappropriated under the emergency use authorization in the States.
---BOMBSHELL STATEMENT---
Dr. Malthouse: "And, in fact, what they are doing with that test now is magnifying it in excess of what was recommended by experts and even by the companies that were making it. That's now being magnified from 33 to 40 times in Canada across all the provinces and the recommendation is up to 30.
---BOMBSHELL STATEMENT---
Dr. Malthouse: "Even Dr. Fauci has said, if you do a magnification of the debris in your nose to find RNA which you can match to the Sars-Cov2, above 35 is a complete waste of time and it does not show that you have any infective particles.
Dr. Malthouse: "Now, that's quite interesting, because what -- you know -- one reason people are wearing masks is that I am going to protect you and you are going to protect me. But, in fact, they have shown in a huge study out of China with 10 MILLION PEOPLE that, wearing -- being an asymptomatic person with a positive PCR test was not actually contagious. It was a huge study, just recently published, and it shows that asymptomatic people are not transmitting disease. So, here we have a pandemic diagnosed or based on a PCR test which was completely inappropriate for the job -- and misused -- and then we also find that another one the, sort of, pillars of wearing masks is, you know, asymptomatic spread, and we are finding now with this huge study out of China, just recently published, that this is not actually happening."
Interviewer: "Does the PCR test actually test for this specific virus?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Well, they would like it to test for this specific virus, but they don't really have anything to compare it to. Even in the CDC papers, if you dig down, you'll see they didn't have Cov, Sars-Cov2, virus available at the time, so they used a substitute to compare what they plot of your nose to. So, even if you look at that level, you'll find that they're really not using the test appropriately."
Interviewer: "So, Dr. Malthouse, you're not alone in what you say. There are groups of organizations, of scientists and doctors around the world who are questioning the official story. They say that, perhaps, nothing out of the ordinary is happening this year, and that there is no pandemic, that is -- and there is no need for the tremendous amount of fear or the masks or the lockdowns. Can you comment on the Barrington Declaration and the various doctors and scientists in Canada and around the world who, like you, are questioning the official story?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Well, the Great Barrington Declaration was -- states that in -- the evidence does not support the measures that are being carrying out by public health. Masking, social distancing, lockdowns, those are not based on science. And it's pretty clear now. We -- in the very beginning we had some -- we were wondering what to do, we had this deathly virus coming our way, and so some of those public health measures were put into place because we -- because of the unknown. But now we've had data from since at least since April that shows that we actually did not have a true pandemic. Now when I say that it means that the number of deaths in every country in the world in the period of time, let's say March -- February, March, April, May -- did not exceed what people had been experiencing in the previous years. And so, we really haven't had an excess death toll, which, in the past, before 2009, when the WHO changed the definition of a pandemic to accommodate the bird flu, H1N1, we actually -- this would not have been considered an epidemic.
---BOMBSHELL STATEMENT---
Dr. Malthouse: "And what we're seeing now really is a "case-demic. Now what that means is that we are constantly being told there are more and more cases. There's 400 today, a thousand tomorrow. But these are cases based on this PCR test which is inaccurate and giving us at least 90% false positives -- much higher, perhaps, maybe even 97% false positives. So if we're basing all our actions on that inaccurate PCR test, then we're going to go far astray -- and we have."
Dr. Malthouse: "That evidence has been shown that -- the evidence has shown that in the previous policies coming up to May for the first so-called wave, the deaths from the policies were about 10 to 1 compared to the deaths for Covid itself. And now the people have evaluated that to be at least 50 to 1. So that would include starvation, suicides, overdoses, people not getting proper treatment for their diseases, delay of diagnosis, many different things which have caused that. And that's not including all the psychological damage which we'll be seeing over the next years. It's going to roll out depression, anxiety, so many different things. And, the way we're propagating this is simply by fear. The fear is causing people to follow public health measures which do not make sense, they are not scientific, and there's no evidence to support them. People are following those because they're afraid and they're reaching out to someone to save them, and this is the plan is to create fear among the public so that they will do whatever you tell them. People have to start thinking for themselves."
Interviewer: "In your letter to Dr. Henry, Dr. Malthouse, you, you explain -- although I'm sure she knows, but the rest of us don't -- you explain what a case is. And, maybe you can just comment on that, because it's not exactly what we're being told these days."
Dr. Malthouse: "We are seeing cases going up because there's doing -- there's more testing being done. In fact, we've had more cases now than we had at the peak of the first wave, so to speak. And that's because the more PCR tests you do, if nine out of ten of them are inaccurate, false positives, then you are going to have way more positive people. Now when they call a case in regular medical lingo, it means someone who is actually sick, who has symptoms, and often needs to be admitted to the hospital. That would be a case. But now-a-days a case is anyone with a positive PCR test. Now if we based all our practice, our policies, on PCR testing, which we know is false -- a recent court decision out of Portugal actually decided that PCR was not accurate and was inappropriately being applied here -- and that was a very important decision. If we base everyone on that, and cases, which may be asymptomatic people who are not even sick and they're not contagious, based on the Chinese study, then we're completely going down the wrong road. And if we look at all the harms -- the collateral harm that's being caused by these policies -- we better make that 180 degree turn and go back the other way if we want to save our country."
Interviewer: "Do you have any idea why the media is not reporting on the types of things that you are talking about?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Well, the media gets 50 to 70% of their income from the pharmaceutical companies. The pharmaceutical companies are going to profit big time from this, in the billions and millions of dollars repeatedly every year from the vaccination and other drugs they might sell alongside that. So there's no motivation for them and I would say they are completely captured. You are not going to get your information from the mainstream media. And, in fact, I recommend putting your television in the garage for the next 6 months."
Interviewer: "You say to Dr. Henry in your letter to her, you say, "It's your duty as the provincial health officer to provide facts." What do you think our public health people in B.C. and right across Canada should be doing now?"
Dr. Malthouse: "I think our public health people, including Dr. Bonnie Henry, should be saying that, "we made a mistake" that, "we, looking at the data now, from the earlier part of the year, we've seen that public policy [unintelligible] rolled out. We're not helping people and we're actually harming them for now and for the future, way beyond any type of epidemic or pandemic, and that we need to apologize, and to do something which is science and evidence based. That's what I think the public health should be doing."
Interviewer: "Are you alone in this or would you say there's at least some support within the medical and scientific community in Canada and around the world for what you are saying here?"
Dr. Malthouse: "Well, what we're seeing here is that all the doctors and scientists, epidemioligists, researchers, everybody who is actually looking at the data is saying the same thing: that this lockdown, facemask wearing, washing your hands excessively, isolating people unnecessarily, locking down businesses or causing them to close, closing churches, that all that is baloney -- by that I mean it's not based on science. And all of them are being blocked by mainstream media. People are going to have to look elsewhere to get their information and to learn how to evaluate for themselves. But I am not a lone voice in the wilderness here. There are thousands and thousands of doctors and scientists speaking out against what's going on around the world. And if you look at it, you'd say, "Well, why would all our public health people, our governments being, you know, giving us the wrong information?" Well, that leads you onto the next question as to what would be the motivation for someone to try to implement policies which are actually killing people?"
Interviewer: "What would be the motivation? What is, what is then behind all of this? Now, I happen to agree with you. I don't think the pandemic is real. I think we're being given false information. I think the death numbers have been exagerated immensely and, it's, if you watch the media or listen to the politicians, it's all fear all the time. Now I don't say I'm right in that thought, but it is what I think. But if you do think that then, we have to look at, what is the reason for doing all of this? Because it's not an accident. If the death numbers are being artificially inflated, and we're being scared by cases, which, as you said just a few minutes ago, medically are not cases, then what's behind it?"
Dr. Malthouse: "That's a good question. I'm not sure if you want to go there. (Chuckles) But that's the big leap for people. Right? That's the big step forward. To think that it's such a big lie. That, that it's hard for people to comprehend or to accept. And that's, and people do not want to accept it. That's why they're more willing to place their trust in someone that they can see their policies are absurd. It's an illusion of safety that they're offering you. And that's what people are clinging to because they're so frightened."
Interviewer: "You mentioned earlier, how many, the PCR test uses doublings. They keep doubling and doubling and doubling the small bit of virus they get. And if you over a certain number of doublings, the test becomes completely irrelevant. I asked Adrian Dix's office, the Minister of Health in BC, for, what's the number of doublings that are being used? And, I mean, that's a very straightforward number. There's no reason not to get it. And yet they won't tell us what it is. And we're almost out of time."
Dr. Malthouse: "Here's what they've done. There was a study came out which looked at all the provinces. They were not able to get the information directly from the provinces. Most of them were withholding that information. But the numbers are 33 to 45 across the country. That includes I think all the provinces they were able to get, which was the majority of them. So 33, you might think is acceptable, but usually they're saying that 25 to 30 is the maximum you want to do this amplification, this clinicinal amplification or cycle threshold -- CT -- cycle threshold, That would be the maximum would be 30. And they're doing 33 to 45 in Canadian provinces. They won't tell you, because the whole thing falls apart when you see that they're creating an amplification such that just about everything will be positive. Now you wonder why would they do that? Well, they're doing that because they're being told to do that. And they're being told to do that because we want to create a case-demic -- a case-demic, which is not, you know, people in the hospitals. Of course, we're seeing now an increase in hospitalizations, which we would expect from this time of the year. This is perfectly normal. And as the fall goes into the winter, we'll see that the numbers continue to be what we would expect."
Interviewer: "Our hospitals are always full at this time of the year. Dr. Malthouse, we're out of time. Thank-you very very much for doing this interview. And, who knows where we're going. But, thank-you very much. And thanks to everybody for watching this segment of Citizen's Forum."